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Natural Science Forum / Physics / Relativity / November 2005



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Is this Right, which object or both has the attribute gravitational mass?

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Joe Fischer - 28 Nov 2005 03:33 GMT
Has this appeared anyplace else;

[QUOTE]
Massive objects also create a strong gravitational force. That is described by by gravitational
mass. Gravitational Mass measures how much gravity an object creates. Inertial Mass measures how an
object reacts to a force.
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http://www.museum.vic.gov.au/scidiscovery/gravity/general.asp

        In Newtonian gravitation, is gravitational mass the attribute that causes an object
to accelerate downward, or the amount of gravitational force generated by the Earth,
or both.

        Perhaps in GR, it could only be what generates the field, but if there is
no force, then does the gravitational mass generate the curving of spacetime?

        It seems that every day, a new opinion surfaces.

Joe Fischer
Tom Roberts - 28 Nov 2005 05:14 GMT
>          In Newtonian gravitation, is gravitational mass the attribute that causes an object
> to accelerate downward, or the amount of gravitational force generated by the Earth,
> or both.

Both. Sort of. One can in principle distinguish "active gravitational
mass" and "passive gravitational mass". The former is the m in
    Del^2 \phi = -4 pi G \rho
    m = integral \rho d^3x
The latter is the m in
    f = -m grad \phi
But Newton's third law guarantees these two are the same, even though
they appear so different -- of course they aren't different at all in
    f = GMm/r^2

BTW in Newtonian physics "inertial mass" is the m in
    f = ma
Suitable choice of the gravitational constant G ensures that this is the
same m as in the previous equations.

>          Perhaps in GR, it could only be what generates the field, but if there is
> no force, then does the gravitational mass generate the curving of spacetime?

In GR there are no such things as "gravitational mass" or "inertial
mass", there is just mass. Mass does not "generate the curvature of
spacetime", that role is played by the energy-momentum tensor T in the
Einstein field equation
    G = T
But, of course, mass contributes to T. The G in that equation is the
Einstein curvature tensor.

Note that vacuum regions can have nonzero curvature (even though T=0),
because G is not the complete Riemann curvature tensor; continuity of
the fields at the boundary between matter and vacuum requires nonzero
curvature in the vacuum region. The Bianchi identities put constraints
on the Riemann curvature tensor at such boundaries (and throughout the
manifold).

Tom Roberts    tjroberts@lucent.com
 
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