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Einstein, Variable Speed of Light and Criminal Zombies

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Pentcho Valev - 29 Nov 2005 08:33 GMT
Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
> "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch> wrote in message news:43870723$1@epflnews.epfl.ch...
> >
> > "Igor" <thoovler@excite.com> wrote in message
> > news:1132918168.696302.32040@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > > > Albert Einstein, "Relativity", Chapter 7: "There is hardly a simpler
> > > > law in physics than that according to which light is propagated in
> > > > empty space. Every child at school knows, or believes he knows, that
> > > > this propagation takes place in straight lines with a velocity c=300000
> > > > km/s."
> > > >
> > > > Chapter 22: "...the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in
> > > > vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the
> > > > special theory of relativity and to which we have already frequently
> > > > referred, cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of
> > > > light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light
> > > > varies with position. Now we might think that as a consequence of this,
> > > > the special theory of relativity and with it the whole theory of
> > > > relativity would be laid in the dust. BUT IN REALITY THIS IS NOT THE
> > > > CASE."
> > > >
> > > > Pentcho Valev
> > >
> > > There once was a time when I didn't understand the difference between
> > > speed and velocity either, just like you.  But I overcame my ignorance
> > > and became educated.  It can do wonders for your outlook.  It might be
> > > worth your while   Just a suggestion.
> >
> > Igor, funny enough you're mistaken, your new education is useless for
> > correctly understanding old English publications. Maybe you were too much in
> > newsgroups, and don't read enough publications, especially of that time
> > period -- also just a suggestion. Or learn German -- just another
> > suggestion. In any case, Einstein's Geschwindigkeit in the above text means
> > "speed" in the jargon of this newsgroup. And if you knew to which
> > calculation Einstein referred in the above text, you would already know
> > that.
> >
> > Harald
>
> As far as I have verified, whenever the word "Geschwindigkeit"
> appears in the original article, he is talking about the speed (or
> in a few cases the closing speed, when
> The only place where he is talking about the vector, he calls
> it "Geschwindigkeitsvektor".
>
> And besides that, your remark is entirely irrelevant and off
> the mark. You seem to have a problem reading what people
> (and that even includes yourself) write.
> Agenda?
>
> Dirk Vdm

Zombies accuse one another of exposing Einstein's greatest lie ("BUT IN
REALITY THIS IS NOT THE CASE"). Things are hopeless now for the
criminal relativity cult. See more in

http://www.wbabin.net/valev/valev5.htm

Pentcho Valev
Harry - 29 Nov 2005 09:11 GMT
> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
> > "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch> wrote in message news:43870723$1@epflnews.epfl.ch...
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>
> Pentcho Valev

Nonsense: it still works fine (and that's what Einstein meant).

Harald
surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com - 29 Nov 2005 14:25 GMT
> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
> > "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch> wrote in message news:43870723$1@epflnews.epfl.ch...
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> > > > > relativity would be laid in the dust. BUT IN REALITY THIS IS NOT THE
> > > > > CASE."

...

> Zombies accuse one another of exposing Einstein's greatest lie ("BUT IN
> REALITY THIS IS NOT THE CASE"). Things are hopeless now for the
> criminal relativity cult. See more in

This has been explained to you in great detail on many occasions. You
just don't want to get it.
Michael Gray - 29 Nov 2005 19:47 GMT
>> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
>> > "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch> wrote in message news:43870723$1@epflnews.epfl.ch...
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>This has been explained to you in great detail on many occasions. You
>just don't want to get it.

Pentode Valve has based his sole reason for existence squarely on this
delusion.

He's not going to let go of it lightly.
Especially not for the trivial reason that he is entirely wrong.

It seems to have the power of a religious mania over him.
Dirk Van de moortel - 29 Nov 2005 16:35 GMT
> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
> > "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch> wrote in message news:43870723$1@epflnews.epfl.ch...
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>
> Pentcho Valev

It seems that Pentcho Valev has learned the difference
between
   - a reply and a copy
after all. So my previous reply did serve a purpose
indeed, which is nice.

Unfortunately Pentcho Valev now demonstrates his
ignorance of the difference between
   - relativity and disguised ether addiction,
joining the already established list of ignored differences
between
   - speed and velocity,
   - kneeling down and bending over,
   - local and global,
   - a sycophant in English and in French,
   - massive and massless particles,
   - a real poncho and a Sears poncho,
   - implication and equivalence,
   - inertial and non-inertial,
   - group velocity and phase velocity,
   - science and religion.

Dirk Vdm
Eric Gisse - 30 Nov 2005 01:36 GMT
> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
> > "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@epfl.ch> wrote in message news:43870723$1@epflnews.epfl.ch...
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>
> Pentcho Valev

Not only are you incapable of learning relativity, you are incapable of
learning how to behave in USENET properly. Par for the course, I
suppose.

http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/valevfaq.htm
 
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