> Einstein's divinity naturally involved some honesty: apart from other
> people's blurring (e.g. in quantum mechanics), Einstein fought his own
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> http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf p.35
> ("Relativity without c")
It seems that Pentcho Valev ignores the difference between
- honing the foundations of a theory and fighting it.
To be added to the list...
Dirk Vdm
donstockbauer@hotmail.com - 29 Jan 2006 10:45 GMT
> Einstein's divinity naturally involved some honesty:
Have you stopped beating your wife yet?
> apart from other
> people's blurring (e.g. in quantum mechanics), Einstein fought his own
> falsifications as well.
Well, have you stopped or not?
> As soon as he realized that his second
> postulate (the principle of constancy of speed of light) was false,
I repeat: have you stopped beating your wife yet?
> he found ways of reducing the importance of this postulate and developed
> the theory as if falsity had never existed. So in Chapter 7 in his
> "Relativity" Einstein eliminates his false postulate by claiming it is
> nothing more than a corollary of the first postulate, the principle of
> relativity:
False. You are totally loosing it.
> "For, like every other general law of nature, the law of the
> transmission of light in vacuo must, ACCORDING TO THE PRINCIPLE OF
> RELATIVITY, be the same for the railway carriage as reference-body as
> when the rails are the body of reference."
Standard Crank Pattern No. 6: basing criticism on popular science
presentations rather than actual theory.
I know Pentcho cannot be reasoned with but for the benefit of anybody
else reading this: Einstein here merely points out what happens _if_
one adds the speed of light to the set of the constants of nature. His
second postulate is otherwise not a consequence of the first.
> In Chapter 22 Einstein continues the fight against his false postulate
> - in a gravitational field the speed of light suddenly proves variable.
Suddenly?
> However that is the maximum of Einstein's honesty - he knows any
> further confession would be fatal.
What "maximum honesty", what "further confession", what "fatal"? You
are such a child.
> The hypnotists in Einstein's cult inherited Einstein's honesty and
> never stop fighting Einstein's false second postulate:
Listen to me very carefully:
1. There is no "Einstein cult". Just get it through your head once and
for all, it's not that difficult.
2. There are no "hypnotists" or any other agency interested in the
least in promoting any such "cult".
3. Nobody is "fighting" any postulate. Postulates are simply what they
are: postulates. They are judged on their ability to lead to science
that agrees with experiments while minimising the number of arbitrary
tunable parameters.
If you have philosophical objections to relativity, just be honest and
SAY SO. There is nothing cranky about that, it's a fascinating field. I
have plenty of philosophical problems with relativity. It just happens
not to be a physics problem.
(I also have plenty of problems with people wro criticise it for the
wrong, idiotic, reasons.)
--
Jan Bielawski
Hexenmeister - 30 Jan 2006 01:46 GMT
>> Einstein's divinity naturally involved some honesty:
>
> Have you stopped
interrupting yet?
Androcles
>Einstein's divinity naturally involved some honesty: apart from other
>people's blurring (e.g. in quantum mechanics), Einstein fought his own
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>nothing more than a corollary of the first postulate, the principle of
>relativity:
That does not eliminate it, and it is true. You, OTOH, are false.
>"For, like every other general law of nature, the law of the
>transmission of light in vacuo must, ACCORDING TO THE PRINCIPLE OF
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>However that is the maximum of Einstein's honesty - he knows any
>further confession would be fatal.
Were that you were so astute.
>The hypnotists in Einstein's cult inherited Einstein's honesty and
>never stop fighting Einstein's false second postulate:
And you never stop flaunting your idiocy.
>http://www.worldscibooks.com/physics/4114.html
>http://www.thegreatdebate.org.uk/VSLReview1.html
>http://www.courses.fas.harvard.edu/~phys16/Textbook/ch10.pdf p.35
>("Relativity without c")
>
>Pentcho Valev