The Victory of Einstein's Cult
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Pentcho Valev - 27 Feb 2006 07:57 GMT http://www.buckingham.ac.uk/education/research/ceer/pdfs/physicsprint.pdf
"Physics is in danger of disappearing as an identifiable subject from much of state education, through redefinition to general science and teacher shortage."
Pentcho Valev
OsherD - 27 Feb 2006 09:00 GMT >From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net Pentcho Valev typed:
>"Physics is in danger of disappearing as an identifiable subject from >much of state education, through redefinition to general science and >teacher shortage." I taught mathematics in California State Universities and Community Colleges and before that I was a substitute High School and sometimes Middle School teacher in California, and in all places there was a major deterioration in student motivation, behavior, respect for teachers, respect for Knowledge, respect for Ethics, compared to my experiences in California when I grew up.
I suspect that the British situation which you mention (with a very interesting reference link) is similar and that what is actually happening is that physics is being hardest hit by the general decline in Knowledge and Ethics because physics has the most prerequisites in Knowledge in the sense of requiring both mathematics and chemistry. Mathematicians just have to know mathematics (though to know it very well is another story). Also, friends and acquainces of mine who've taught point out that California students tend to lack "patience" and "interest" when they take physics courses, which seems to mean that it's an unfamiliar language to them since they've ignored too many of its prerequisites.
At the risk of seeming to be an "old-timer" or an alarmist, I think that we're very close to the situation before Ancient Rome fell. None of the Presidential candidates in the last 10 or so U.S.A. elections came from physical science, engineering, mathematics, or even psychology or theoretical sociology. "Law" appears to be their main profession, and has been an almost total failure in preparing them to make decisions for either the Individual or the Plurality once they leave the Courtroom. Similar remarks hold for the Congress (Senate and House of Representatives) and Governors, etc.
Osher Doctorow
OsherD - 27 Feb 2006 09:08 GMT >From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net I should also have mentioned philosophy - can you imagine a Presidential or Congressional/Parliamentary candidate who is a philosopher? He/she would so endanger the "system" and the Bureaucrats that we'd probably see a reenactment of Socrates' forced death by taking hemlock in Ancient Athens. Philosophers are usually quite familiar with Materialism versus Nonmaterialism, and with BS versus reality or ideals. Those are opposite qualities from those of Bureaucracies.
Osher Doctorow
OsherD - 27 Feb 2006 09:18 GMT >From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net Another contribution to the "Fall of Rome" is the proliferation of Ethnic Studies and Feminist Studies departments, which usually have the agendas of "My Ethnic Group At Any Price" or "My Sex At Any Price". At Harvard, the President of Harvard is about to be ousted for being opposed to Terrorism and for returning Saudi millions recently "given" to Harvard.
Osher Doctorow
Lloyd Parker - 27 Feb 2006 09:50 GMT >>From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Osher Doctorow Actually, it's not. But his comment about women being genetically inferior when it comes to science might have something to do with it.
Hexenmeister - 27 Feb 2006 10:27 GMT > >From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Osher Doctorow Those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. Rome fell from within, the West will do the same. Britain is crumbling under a mass of immigrants seeking the good life so that they can change it to suit their own religion. They see free health care, freedom of speech, benefits such as "family allowance", a regular payment to children for being children and consider these to be "rights". If it is free there is no need to work for it. So they don't. They build mosques instead of cars, planes and ships, so Britain's engineers emigrate. I did. Collective greed overrides collective welfare. Androcles.
Lloyd Parker - 27 Feb 2006 09:51 GMT >> >From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net >> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >Those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. Rome fell from >within, the West will do the same. But we don't use lead pipes any longer!
hanson - 27 Feb 2006 18:31 GMT >>> Pentcho Valev typed: http://www.buckingham.ac.uk/education/research/ceer/pdfs/physicsprint.pdf
>>>>"Physics is in danger of disappearing as an identifiable >>>> subject from much of state education, through [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>> happening is that physics is being hardest hit by the >>> general decline in Knowledge and Ethics [hanson] That may not be the reason for it at all. It may simply be an (ill) perceived notion because the golden age/phase of physics and chemistry is over... 'cuz most of what humankind was looking for from the products of physics and chemistry had been extracted and delivered... Once that had happened societal interest turned to other fields.... such as lamentation, like we here do here now. It's euphemistically called "being connected"... and so the heroes are no longer physicists & chems but computer dudes from Gates on down... Go with the flow, dude...
[Kosher]
>>> ... in California, and in all places there was a major >>> deterioration in student motivation, behavior, respect for >>> teachers, respect for Knowledge, respect for Ethics, >>> compared to my experiences in California when I grew up. >>> At the risk of seeming to be an "old-timer" or an alarmist, [hanson] Yes, you are and unkosher at that. Your whining about the good old times is as ancient as is humanity itself... yet, like always, while you belabor the days of yore and bygone, the kids sing and f.ck around, not paying any attention to the oldsters.... just like you did when you where young... and if you didn't then you are a loser... a schmuck and a dreidel... ahahaha... Just look at your grandkids.
[Kosher]
>>> I think that we're very close to the situation before Ancient >>> Rome fell. [hanson] ahahaha....Heard that one before, here and in every other country where work and reside... All old timers, everywhere, from back in the gray fog of prehistory, have sung that same song.... ahahaha... (This notion may simply be a subconscious announcement by the old timers that they think and feel to be very close to their own "fall")
[Kosher]
>>> None of the Presidential candidates in the last 10 or so >>> U.S.A. elections came from physical science, engineering, >>> mathematics, or even psychology or theoretical sociology. [hanson] Your counting is unkosher perhaps for geriatric reasons. President Jimmy Carter was a nuclear engineer.
[Kosher]
>>> "Law" appears to be their main profession, and has been >>> an almost total failure in preparing them to make decisions >>> Similar remarks hold for the Congress (Senate >>> and House of Representatives) and Governors, etc. [hanson] Yet, that may be the least of all possible evils... It may be good to have people with interests in the "law" = rules, to do the admin. of ruling. One of the chief tenants of the law is to "exhaust all administrative remedies before you use the state (court)"... which is good, else not only the US, but all societies would have turned at once to the workers paradise of socialism and communism where only the very few make the decisions for the many... just like in religion.
> > Those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. Rome fell from > > within, the West will do the same. [1] [hanson] .... "doomed":... neeehh... "repeat":... yes, of course, but with variations. These evolving repeats have been going for eons. Build the new on the old is seen everywhere from architecture to bio-evolutions. Most trends on the societal level are simply scene changes of temporary social fads, cultural habits that come and go...... because.... The only thing that remains constant is change itself... ahahaha...
[Hexer]
>> Britain is crumbling under a mass of immigrants seeking the >> good life so that they can change it to suit their own religion. [hanson] ahahaha... that's a good one... ahahaha... because what you do observe here is a reaction to our own teachings. See, the Brits, like the Gringos (mexer slang for green-coat), went all over this f.cking globe and instilled in their new colonial subjects (= foreign subsidiary -"customers" in the US case) how great the US and Britain was... and so why shouldn't any rational subject or customer of theirs not want to emigrate to the land of honey... ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA...
[Hexer]
>> They see free health care, freedom of speech, benefits > > such as "family allowance", a regular payment to children [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> engineers emigrate. Collective greed overrides collective >> welfare. Androcles. [hanson] .... ahahaha... same over here. But that complaint is vastly overstated and overrated and overhyped & mainly used by local polititians to garner votes. In the US some stats say that there is only one immigrant welfare case for every 10 native ones. Real fact?... I dunno.. I am not working in nor using the welfare system, except that, like you, I 'm paying for it ... which may be cheaper than having the poor bastards turning to even more crimes... ... So, let's be thankful that we are not in their shoes... and always remember that at one time in the past our own personal forbearers were looked, shunned and scoffed at like that... ahaha... long range Pot/Kettle song.
> [1] "Rome fell from within"..... > ...But we don't use lead pipes any longer! [hanson] No, we don't, but the "leaded Rome demise" is green-sh.t doom propaganda. The Romans had Pb pluming only to a limited extent in scope and time. Furthermore, the lead pipe surface is coated immediately with Pb-CO3-SO4-SiO4, all extremely insoluble. So the lead exposure back then was minuscule compared to what it was/is in modern times, when food tin cans were soldered with Sn/Pb, and especially when Billions of tons lead were spewed out (world wide) into the homes and bedrooms from passing cars that used TE-Lead. Parki-pooh you probably grew up next to a busy highway... ahahaAHAHA.... So, like the man said "Live and let die" and.... "Let'em sing ... All of'em... It's a beautiful choir!... ahahaha... ahahahanson
OsherD - 27 Feb 2006 18:59 GMT >From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net If anybody notices that Hanson defends the Establishment, they shouldn't be surprised. Put some filthy language in the mouth of an Establishment hack and you get Hanson. Like the Establishment, he's anti-Jewish, feels so guilty about the Colonial past that he/they give away Jobs and taxpayer money to the Violence-oriented loafers and uneducated sloths, open the borders to cheap labor, lay out the red carpet for the Saudis who finance and train the bin Ladens, welcome the United Arab Emirates' takerover of our ports, and on and on. His only correct claim is that Carter was an engineer, but one out of so many Presidents and/or Candidates is minuscule, plus Carter didn't absorb engineering Knowledge or Ethics but rather became a servant of the Saudis and a defender of Islamist Terror.
As for us all being like Hanson when we were young, that's psychological projection of Hanson's own past onto others. Hanson was and is a combination of Establishment and Me-First-Number One-Numero Uno Law of the Jungle, which actually is rather close to both the Dumbocrat and Bush Administrations come to think of it.
Osher
Hexenmeister - 27 Feb 2006 20:23 GMT > >From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net > > If anybody notices that Hanson defends the Establishment, they > shouldn't be surprised. Put some filthy language in the mouth of an > Establishment hack and you get Hanson. He's ok. He's a true cynic, I like the guy. http://www.i-cynic.com/whatis.asp As to language, ' Of all the strange "crimes" that human beings have legislated of nothing, "blasphemy" is the most amazing - with "obscenity" and "indecent exposure" fighting it out for the second and third place. ' -- Robert A. Heinlein Androcles.
Like the Establishment, he's
> anti-Jewish, feels so guilty about the Colonial past that he/they give > away Jobs and taxpayer money to the Violence-oriented loafers and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Osher hanson - 28 Feb 2006 00:58 GMT [hanson] http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/f6a1cc20668dd9d1 [Osher] http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/bd9956ac49e98970 [hanson] AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... Don't be so unkosher Osher... See, it's precisely because of unkosher members like you that I have put my conversion to Judaism on hold again!... ahahaha...
Until then, Osher, let's sit down and have a beer, a ham sandwich and good crusty pork rind... all kosher of course... and reason:
Osher, I said before: There are no better sci/soc conversionalists around then the Jews. You should feel happy that I talk to you. I am not "anti-Jewish" but I certainly voice my opinion when hear a guilt-ridden Bible beater or a threatening ass-venter OR a loud mouthed Jew, like you, insisting on their god-given superiority and phony righteousness. Osher, it 's not my doing that you have that gross, compulsive demand-need to be admired and adored and loved for being Jewish... ahahaha... If you do then behave lovingly & lovable. ahahaha... So, what really that cranked you, senile olde kacker?...
What "anti-Jewish" things have I said? ... ahahahaha.. Do you object to me repeating what was shown over and over in the Jew- dominated mass media ?... What is your problem with hearing a few such examples like these here? Is it the Left-Jewish liberal press that you are really mad at and you are just using me as a proxy? I think these Yidds are wonderful Jews to air their own dirty linen in public. That's transparency. Honesty. Commendable. Why don't you think so too, Osher?... Are you that unkosher, Osher?
ahahaha... Now then, so that you can secretly gloat and celebrate, here are the latest machinations that some Jews have engineered and published in their own Jew dominated and controlled media and press:... ahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
==02- 26-06: PBS aired the McLaughlin Group analysis in which one of the learned panelists says on the ongoing East Coast Port sale: ~ "This deal with the United Arab Emirates is good because Israel has a diplomatic Mission in Dubai, therefore it must be good enough for the USA".
== 02-23-06: All TV networks aired that the United Arab Emirates have acquired leases to run 6 East Coast Sea Ports (large Jewish populations) in a deal that was approved by the Bush appointed son of a rabbi, Homeland security chief, Michael Chertoff.....
== 02-22-06: Fox News aired: Al Franken, Zionist loudmouth of the financially ailing "Air America Radio" chain intends to run for Senate in Michigan/Minnesota with a campaign chest of $25 million that was paid to him as "salary" from the donations of the Jewish Leftwing Hollywood clique like Rob Reiner and Billionaire George Soros, a naturalized Hungarian Jew.... .
== 02-12-06: The TV History channel, for years sounding like the TV arm of the holocaust industry with their weekly diet of WWII films, Nazi bashing, KZ movies and Jewish contributions to WWII victory NOW switched tracks. Maybe with the traditional sources for the Holocaust industry being milked dry and new enemies looming against Jew/Zionism, they decided that it might be of help to exploit the Germans and the Nazis as allies now. (Just like we did in 45, using them against the Rusky commies). The HistChannel in their latest production .... (a) 1 hr show about "Hitler's relatives" does strenuously belabore that issue and claims that since 1933 it was officially known in Germany that Hilter's family tree was blessed with the genes from the "Salomon" family branch, Jews from Dornisheim, a village which Hitler had leveled and used as an artillery range.... .... (b) another 1 hr HistChannel show portrays that the Nazis were first and foremost environmentalists, for clean air and water, health and vegans . They are shown now (then in the 1920/30's) as having been ~ 60 years ahead in science over the US, with the Nazis having invented the tape recorder, hi-fi, Jets, the electron microscope (Ruska Nobel price), rockets, ejection seats and a volley of chemical patents etc... and all that AFTER the Nazis had they kicked out all the Jewish scientists, who (according to this new history TV show) didn't contribute nearly as much to science as the previuos US-Jew propaganda, since 1945, has blared out for the US public to believe.... ahahahaha...
== 02-10-06: Fox News' usually Jew loving Bill O'Reilly railed against Adam Shapiro, co-founder of the Internatl. Solidarity Movement, for recruiting and raising funds for Hamas etc. and SUSTAIN ("Stop US Tax Aid to Israel Now".org)... Google: --"Adam Shapiro" ISM-- for more... This is another example of what the Zionist side of Jewry refers to as "deranged Jews"... like their issue with Adam Perlman aka Gadhan an Al Qaida Spokesman residing in Pakistan. This Jew turned Muslim, threatened that LA and Melbourne will be the next target of terrorist attacks and "much less compassionate" then the London & Spain massacres were.. 09-12-05 abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/ 102904_nw_american_alQaeda.html
== 01-24-06: NBC aired JDL's paranoia and angst them protesting because singer Ricky Martin wore a checkered scarf while giving a concert in Jordan.
== 12-16-05: Fox News' Cavuto has a Jewish journalist on that condemns Steven Spielberg for making his "Munich" Film, calling it "Anti-Jew" and bemoaning Spielberg for having uttered that "Israel's time has passed. Israel is no longer necessary"
== 12-15-05: Jewish comedian cum rabbi Jacky Mason dishes out Bumperstickers in New York reading: "Jews FOR Merry Christmas" and saying "why do we Jews, only 3% of the US population, have to protect the rights of you Christians who are 93% of the population?". He, of course, didn't mention all the Jews who were/are actively promoting "Holyday" over "Xmas". under the banner of State/Church separation... ahahaha...
== 12-14-05 worldnetdaily.com says that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has ordered his defense forces to plan for a pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuclear weapons facilities by the end of March 2006. That in response to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who today reiterated his Holocaust denial and called for the ethnic cleansing of Israel. Last week, Ahmadinejad questioned Jewish roots in Israel, denied the Holocaust, and in October, he called for Israel to be "wiped off the map." and suggested to move Israel from the Middle East to Germany, or Austria.
== 11-22-05: CNN HLN & Fox aired that Cong Murtha (D) who advocated the immediate withdrawal of US troops from Iraq and precipitated the failed 403:3 vote for it, said when asked who should be blamed for the current Iraq policy failures that it was Wolfowitz who should be fired for it.
== As far back as the beginning of the Clinton admin there were Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Rob Loewenberg, David Wurmser and Meyrav Wurmser and other Neocons (a code word for Jews) in the Bush admin who goaded the prez to go into Iraq. Once that took place the pressure from Saddam onto Israel was gone,... and promptly those same Jewish factions got luke warm and then openly anti-war. The Krauts have a proverb for that: "Für das Gewesene gibt the Jude nichts"
== 10-11-05: CNN HLN & Fox aired that a Jewish cadet is suing the Air Force Academy in CO for having Xianity forced upon him while training to become a pilot.
== 09-29-05: The Networks, Fox & CNN carried the news bit that Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein ordered that more (of the same/similar) Abu Ghraib prison pervert pix must be released by the Pentagon to the public.
== 09-23-05: 2 weeks after class 5 Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans with a vengeance, the Networks, Fox & CNN carried for an entire news cycle segments with (1) a Muslim Ayatollah thanking Allah for punishing the US because of its evil policy towards Islam, followed by (2) a Rabbi in Jerusalem who was thanking God for punishing the US because of its evil policy towards Israel.
== On July 10th, 2005, 3 days after the terror attacks on London Fox News aired PM Tony Blair as saying that the conflict between Israeli Jews and Palestinians is the underlying cause of terrorism.
== In the May 2005 "60 Minutes" interview by Mike Wallace, Prez Vlad Putin stated that when the USSR disintegrated its the Treasury was looted that: "All the looters were Jews." Wallace, a Jew himself, looked rather pleased if not proud.... but, interestingly in a re-broadcast on July 31, 2005 Wallace did NOT repeat this video segment, but instead offered only a watered down audio comment about these Russian "oligarchs"....
== To wit, Brittan's Royal Prince Harry wore a Nazi uniform with Swastika to a party. The Jewish "Tolerance" museum demanded that he repent by visiting Auschwitz. (CNN/Fox Jan.13, 2005)
== In the US, Xian churches, i.e. the Presbyterians do officially criticize Israel & US Jews for their practice in Palestine and they have begun to divest their holdings from anything that has to do with Jews and Israel. In response they got a terrorist threat from Queens, NY, that their churches will burn when people are in it. (CNN Nov.14, 2004).
== The Israeli army opens probe into claims that Jewish soldiers mutilated/abused corpses of Palestinians. (CNN-HLN Nov.19, 2004)
== Grand Jury proceedings have been initiated against someone in Rumsfeld's office for spying for Israel, using the offices of the US- Israel Public Affairs Commitee, AIPAC, which the FBI had raided in August 2004. (CNN-HLN, Dec. 01, 2004)
== The parents of a US-born Jewish teen killed by Palestinian militants near a West Bank bus stop eight years ago call for a $156 million federal court award against three Islamic charities.(12-09-04, NPR)
== At least 5 Israeli Banks, e.g. Leumi Bank, have & are still holding onto hundreds of millions of $ deposited by Holocaust victims in 1930-40 and now still refuse to pay these depositors or their heirs. (CNN-HLN & Fox, Feb. 04, 2005)
== Why do you think that the democrats lost the last two elections after they moved Kerry aka Kohn, resp. Lieberman into the ticket?
== 2005: B'nai Brith bitterly whined earlier this year that there are 300'000 fever Jews in the year 2000, in the US, then there were in 1970. It was on CNN for a whole week.
== 2004 The Euros and Ruskies do not like the Arabs. The Euros and Ruskies hate Jews more than they hate Arabs. Which is the REAL reason why the Euros and Ruskies are not with us in Iraq. Euros can't criticize Jews because that is illegal in most countries. So they display their anti-Semitism that way....
== Bush appointed a rabbi son, Michael Chertoff as chief of the Department of Homeland Security on Jan.11, 2005, which may be a Freudian reaction saying: "you Jews caused it. You Jews fix it"...
== During the 20th century there were ~ 200 million people murdered in genocides. So, the Jews, with their holocaust, with allegedly 6 million victims are merely 3% of the this gruesome total. However, the profiteering Jews in the holocaust industry make 97% of the noise. ------------------- ------------------- -------------------
So, what is so anti-Jewish about that, Osher? Your ilk did it... ahaha.. You sound like the father of a criminal you does not want to hear what some of his familiy members have done and attacks the court reporter.... ahahahaha.... If not then why do you have such cramped and strained bowel movements in you tripe below then? Swallow some kosher Sodium Dioctyl sulfosuccinate , Osher, and it'll come out without you popping your geriatric hemmies... ahahaha..
I am truly sorry / or laughing/ about ... that all this bugs you so bad, but I have much less to do with all these worlds shaking events than you, you geriatric dreidel... ahaha... AHAHA.... Osher, hanson travels alone.... You, OTOH, Osher, you are proud member of Zionism. ahahahaha... So, thanks for the laughs... But, Osher, be kosher... or you may end up to be the poster child for the stereo type of/for creating, fostering and promulgating anti-Semitism... Remember: no overbearing loud and domineering Jews... no anti-Semitism. It's as simple as that... Thanks for the laughs.... ahahaha... ahahanson
> >From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net > If anybody notices that Hanson defends the Establishment, they [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Dumbocrat and Bush Administrations come to think of it. > Osher [hanson] ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahaha.... Osher Osher, Osher... Where did I defend the establishment and where did "I* say anything against the Jews... when I merely reported what your ilk did. Read the above news clips again and then be kosher and admit that you don't like to hear what has been done by your affiliates-in-faith. So, just let it ride and make the best of it, Osher, lest you are hallucinating and you crying victim when it was you who was trying to victimize... .... Fat chance buddy... ahahaha...
Osher, I just don't understand why you are one of those fanatical Jews who work so very hard to make Hitler's last curse turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy... of/in/about which Hitler predicted in the Spring of 1945 that = "in a 100 years from now the world will be grateful to me for what I, Hitler, have started!" =
What is that strange, ingrained compulsion that some of you Jews exhibit to support that? ... Is your G-d telling you to be that stupid? ... ahaha.... Osher, here's a much better role model that would suit you better and which you should embrace instead: http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm
Thanks for the laughs, unkosher Osher... ahahahaha... ahahaha... ahahaha... ahahanson
Hexenmeister - 27 Feb 2006 19:36 GMT >>>> Pentcho Valev typed: > http://www.buckingham.ac.uk/education/research/ceer/pdfs/physicsprint.pdf [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] > and so why shouldn't any rational subject or customer of theirs not > want to emigrate to the land of honey... ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... "Queen Victoria velly good man." -- Hong Kong coolie who couldn't believe the "ruler" was a woman, let alone understand just a figurehead. Still, I'll say this for our royalty, they are not afraid to put their arse on the line when it comes to a scrap. f.cked if I'd want to be on the sharp end of an Exocet missile, but needs are and Andrew was there. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/Sales/goods/0,,299,00.html I doubt they are too pleased with Blair and his pansies.
> [Hexer] >>> They see free health care, freedom of speech, benefits [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > in the past our own personal forbearers were looked, shunned > and scoffed at like that... ahaha... long range Pot/Kettle song. I lived in the USA for 20 years, and believe me, it's nothing like the same. When I came back to Britain three years ago (with an ankle injury, I'm retired now anyway) I signed on to get some of my money back and then looked for a job. I'd always wanted to drive a big truck to see the countryside and get paid for it, too many years driving a computer. They asked me if I was seeking asylum, cheeky bastards. I guess they have to ask everyone, but I shoved my birth certificate in their face and told 'em to get stuffed. They are all called Singh or Khan or Patel here, oh yes, golly gosh. Ask them the time and they'll say it is half past tree tirty. If you ever got lost in London call me, they can't help, they are lost themselves.
>> [1] "Rome fell from within"..... >> ...But we don't use lead pipes any longer! [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > "Let'em sing ... All of'em... It's a beautiful choir!... > ahahaha... ahahahanson f.ck the plumbing, the Romans used lead for saucepans. The melting point of lead is a little higher than the boiling point of water, I believe, and it was a wood fire, not coal. I saw a lead pipe in use recently, actually. Gent's toilet, the Bull Hotel, Rochester (Dickens's country). No need to replace it, nobody is going to drink flush water. Androcles.
Hexenmeister - 27 Feb 2006 19:20 GMT >>> >From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net >>> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > But we don't use lead pipes any longer! You need a lead pipe wrapped around your head to knock some f.cking sense into it. Androcles.
donstockbauer@hotmail.com - 27 Feb 2006 13:29 GMT Oh, stuff a f.cking sock in it, Andocles/Black Knight/Hexencocksucker/whatever the f.ck else you want to call your ignorant f.cking a.s.
- Don
Hexenmeister - 27 Feb 2006 19:40 GMT > Oh, stuff a f.cking sock in it, Andocles/Black > Knight/Hexencocksucker/whatever the f.ck else you want to call your > ignorant f.cking a.s. > > - Don Why? You'd have nobody to disagree with. Of course you can't actually disagree since you are too f.cking stupid to understand basic algebra, you dumb c.nt.
You are still an arrogant, illiterate, innumerate, illogical, c.nt without a scrap of logic in you, you whining little toad. You don't have an inkling about mathematics or physics and live in the vain hope some moron will think you are clever, Mr SmartArse who pretends he understands relativity and doesn't have a clue how to synchronize his watch to Cassini time. Modern physics: http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
Hey dumbfuck! Do you know how to move sideways or up? http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/how_to3.jpg
High school algebra:
x² + y² + z² = c²t² Einstein xi² + eta² + zeta² = c²tau² Einstein
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) Einstein eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) Androcles zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) Androcles
Right or wrong, dumbfuck? If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are, pathetic shithead. For v = 0.866c, u = 0.866c, w = 0.866c the resultant velocity is sqrt( 3/4 + 3/4 +3/4) = 1.5c Right or wrong, shitforbrains?
Einstein said eta = y, zeta = z because he did not know how to move sideways or up, anencephalous cretin.
[quote] we establish by definition that the "time" required by a crab to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A. [end quote] Ref: http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
Einstein can prove nothing can go faster than a crab.
Oops!... Did I say 'a crab'? Sorry...'light'.
"In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity 2AB/(t'A-tA) = c, to be a universal constant--the velocity of light in empty space." -- Einstein.
In agreement with experience and without any assumption, BA = -AB, 2AB = AC,
[AB +BA]/(t'A-tA) = 0 Hence c = 0 in Einstein's math.
Observation: http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif Explanation: http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/sekerin.htm (fig 3)
(Or stars explode twice in three months, which is stupid).
In agreement with experience and without any assumption, you remain an arrogant, illiterate, innumerate, illogical, incompetent c.nt without a scrap of logic in you, you whining little toad. You don't have an inkling about mathematics or physics and live in the vain hope some moron will think you are clever, Mr SmartArse who pretends he understands physics and doesn't have a clue how to synchronize his watch to Cassini time. Modern physics: http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Synchronize/Synchronize.htm
f.ck off, useless tord!
tau = (t-vx/c²)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) tau = (t-uy/c²)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) tau = (t-wz/c²)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²) eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²) zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²) If one is right they all are, if one is wrong they all are. Carry three watches or do not move sideways or ride an elevator.
Personally I prefer three witches: Double double, toil and trouble, Fire burn and Einstein bubble. --- Pop! Hexenmeister.
OsherD - 27 Feb 2006 18:39 GMT >From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net Hexenmeister/Androcles typed:
>Those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. Rome fell from >within, the West will do the same. Britain is crumbling under a mass of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >I did. Collective greed overrides collective welfare. >Androcles. Several of your comments are very accurate in my opinion, although the mosques and "own religion" are unlikely to be reasons for the "Fall of Rome" scenario. The lack of Religious tolerance among the immigrants to which you refer is, however, extremely high, and the mosques in many Islamist or pro-Islamist nations are often used for non-Religious purposes including inciting Violence.
Immigrants who riot or commit crimes for "religious" reasons, and immigrants who don't seek jobs, and immigrants who don't learn the main language of their host nation, and immigrants who don't interact with different ethnic groups/Individuals (especially Nonmaterialist Knowledge-oriented and/or Ethics-oriented groups/Individuals) are very likely to contribute largely to the Fall of Rome scenario. A nation that doesn't deport them is suicidal, and so is a nation that takes them in especially after finding out about their repeated behavior. African and poor pro-African Latinos and also Islamist immigrants also tend to be technologically backward and to lack Knowledge-Orientation except as to their own arts-and-crafts or political-religious history. They indeed tend not to build cars, planes, ships, or even production lines, but to enjoy tearing down cars, planes, houses, buildings, businesses.
Osher
Hexenmeister - 27 Feb 2006 20:23 GMT > >From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Islamist or pro-Islamist nations are often used for non-Religious > purposes including inciting Violence. Yeah, we just banged one of 'em up for 7 years, then the USA can extradite him. He can decide for himself which he prefers, British jails or American jails, he'll have plenty of opportunity to find out. What pisses me off is that I have to pay for it. Oh well, that's the price of democracy. We used to deport people like that to Australia, but I think Antarctica would be better.
> Immigrants who riot or commit crimes for "religious" reasons, and > immigrants who don't seek jobs, and immigrants who don't learn the main [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Osher Y'know, the ones that come here and pull their weight are ok, and I've known a few. The Turk that runs the fish 'n chip shop works some really long hours, he's an ok guy and I don't mind what religion he is. Most Brits are either atheists or agnostics anyway. It's the zealots we need to oust. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Androcles.
Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket - 28 Feb 2006 16:14 GMT > >From Osher Doctorow mdoctorow@comcast.net > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > teachers, respect for Knowledge, respect for Ethics, compared to my > experiences in California when I grew up. Good heavens! A professional physicist! (Well, math is close ENOUGH) On sci.physics.relativity!!! (Falls back unconscious off seat)
> I suspect that the British situation which you mention (with a very > interesting reference link) is similar and that what is actually [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > came from physical science, engineering, mathematics, or even > psychology or theoretical sociology. That was the problem with Rome, a lack of professional physicists among the emperors ...
surrealistic-dream@hotmail.com - 27 Feb 2006 15:38 GMT > http://www.buckingham.ac.uk/education/research/ceer/pdfs/physicsprint.pdf > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Pentcho Valev What does Einstein have to do with this?
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