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Evidence that Spacetime and Magnetic/Electric Fields are similar

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guskz@hotmail.com - 29 Mar 2006 21:37 GMT
PERHAPS THE GRAND UNIFIED FIELD THEORY IS ALL ABOUT MONOPOLES AND
DIPOLES, IF SO THEN:

Step 1:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaluza-Klein_theory

Using Bill Hubba's own "Kaluza-Klein theory" which the link above
specifically says at the VERY FIRST SENTENCE that the theory is on
Spacetime model explained by trying to UNIFY the forces of gravity and
electromagnetism.

The model is based on a five dimension spacetime where as the 5th
dimension is a ***SCALAR FIELD*** known as the Radion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radion

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Step2:

And using Sue's link for Forces on electric charges at:
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node28.html

where f2 = k qq r / r^3    where   r/r^3    is explained as an electric
******SCALAR POTENTIAL (FIELD)*****l

Same web location:
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node29.html

QUOTE:  The  component of  is written  |r-r'| / |r-r'|^3       (where
r-r' = distance thus same as r / r^3 above)
guskz@hotmail.com - 29 Mar 2006 22:26 GMT
We cannot pretend to deny Unified Field, Scalar Field, Potential Field,
are  terms used man times to describe spacetime.

Therefore is a clear link with spacetime and fields, notably magnetic
and electric fields.

Even the Radion (I extremely doubt it's a 5th dimension but do believe
it's a scalar of the 4 dimensions) maybe a wording derivation of
Radiation (Radi..on) which is a force that also obeyes (weakens) the
inverse square law for **propagation** distance (hence warped manifold
**propagation** in space's continuum) as demonstrated at the very
bottom of the following web link:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/forces/isq.html#isq

> PERHAPS THE GRAND UNIFIED FIELD THEORY IS ALL ABOUT MONOPOLES AND
> DIPOLES, IF SO THEN:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> QUOTE:  The  component of  is written  |r-r'| / |r-r'|^3       (where
> r-r' = distance thus same as r / r^3 above)
guskz@hotmail.com - 30 Mar 2006 16:11 GMT
> We cannot pretend to deny Unified Field, Scalar Field, Potential Field,
> are  terms used man times to describe spacetime.

We cannot deny .... .... that these are not terms used multiple times
to describe spacetime.

> Therefore is a clear link with spacetime and fields, notably magnetic

Therefore there is a clear link...

> and electric fields.
>
> Even the Radion (I extremely doubt it's a 5th dimension but do believe
> it's a scalar of the 4 dimensions) maybe a wording derivation of
> Radiation (Radi..on) which is a force that also obeyes (weakens) the
> inverse square law for **propagation** distance (hence warped manifold
Radiation also weakens with inverse the distance squared (hence the
spacetime continuum also in the same way as a Radiation field)

....meaning:

1.  the spacetime continuum(it's energy field) probably same as a
Radiation field, spacetime also weakens with the inverse square
distance from the Big Bang's singularity

2. and spacetime is probably also warped the same volumetric way the
Radiation's field is warped.

> **propagation** in space's continuum) as demonstrated at the very
> bottom of the following web link:
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> > QUOTE:  The  component of  is written  |r-r'| / |r-r'|^3       (where
> > r-r' = distance thus same as r / r^3 above)
Sue... - 29 Mar 2006 22:52 GMT
> PERHAPS THE GRAND UNIFIED FIELD THEORY IS ALL ABOUT MONOPOLES AND
> DIPOLES, IF SO THEN:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> QUOTE:  The  component of  is written  |r-r'| / |r-r'|^3       (where
> r-r' = distance thus same as r / r^3 above)

exponents
^1 is a line
^2 is an area
^3 is a volume

All ya need about space-time and electromagnetism you
can model with some spray cans inside a school globe.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/forces/isq.html

The charges superposition, as a function of  the unshared
volumes separated by space OR time.

---Spatial---
If you spray red paint toward France and blue paint
toward Singapore simultaneously,
they don't mix in the path.

---Temporal---
If you alternately spray red paint toward France
and spray blue  paint toward France
they don't mix in the path.

There is no mystery about deriving the magnetic
force from the Coulomb force. The integrals just
get really unfriendly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral
http://web.mit.edu/8.02t/www/802TEAL3D/teal_tour.htm

I like the wiki page because you can cheat and look
at the pictures with one eye and the expresson with
the other eye. ;-) (-;

Also the course notes (pdf) on the MIT site have good
illustrations but I don't remember if this subject is illustrated.

Sue...
 
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