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"The Paradox of Zeno"

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Tots - 27 Apr 2006 15:17 GMT
"The Paradox of Zeno"

    The Paradox of Zeno is 2000 years old and its apparent ability to prove
that all motion is impossible was not resolved until the mathematical
techniques of Calculus became available, even though that technique is not
required. One form of the paradox describes the flight of an arrow which has
been shot at a target. The arrow is shot at a constant velocity, V, to a
target at a distance, L, and the time of flight is divided into intervals.
In the first interval, the arrow covers half of the distance to the target
and, in each succeeding interval of time, it covers half of the remaining
distance. Under the line of reasoning presented, the arrow never reaches the
target because, after each successive interval of time, one half of the
distance to the target that existed at the beginning of the interval
remains.

    The author finds it incredible that this paradox has been taken
seriously by intelligent men for over two millennia and has not been
recognized as a form of trickery. If one accepts that in each successive
interval of time the arrow traveled half of the remaining distance to the
target, he must also accept that each of those successive intervals of time
is half of the duration of the interval which preceded it. As a result,
under the Paradox of Zeno, not only does the arrow never reach the target,
the elapsed time of its flight never reaches the time, T, when the arrow
would reach the target.

    There is no paradox in the Paradox of the Zeno. As long as one allows a
cheap trick to fool him into considering only those events which occur prior
to the arrival of the arrow at the target, he most certainly will believe
that the arrow never reaches the target. The reality is that THE PASSAGE OF
TIME DOES NOT SLOW AS THE ARROW APPROACHES THE TARGET AND THE ARROW REACHES
THE TARGET WHEN IT SHOULD.

    To find the Paradox of Zeno be seriously considered as a topic which
requires a level of mathematics beyond simple arithmetic for its resolution
should lead a reasonable man to have serious doubts as to the mental
capacity of the individuals who are engaged in the teaching process.

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eleaticus - 28 Apr 2006 00:05 GMT
> "The Paradox of Zeno"

>      The author finds it incredible that this paradox has been taken
> seriously by intelligent men for over two millennia and has not been
> recognized as a form of trickery.

The 'author' is an idiot.

>      The Paradox of Zeno is 2000 years old and its apparent ability to prove
> that all motion is impossible was not resolved until the mathematical
> techniques of Calculus became available, even though that technique is not
> required.

The calculus only enabled naive realists to convince themselves they could
resolve Zeno's continuous time and continuous space paradox.  A calculation
formula or a calculation could only 'resolve' that paradox by hand-waving
away the fact that PROCESS is involved, a program is involved:  first this,
and then this, etc. NOT "if we completed the process then ...".

>One form of the paradox describes the flight of an arrow which has
> been shot at a target. The arrow is shot at a constant velocity, V, to a
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> distance to the target that existed at the beginning of the interval
> remains.

Try what may have been the original form of the paradox, moron. Then explain
how calculus resolves it:

Before you can travel some fraction of the distance you must first travel
that fraction of that distance, but before you travel that fraction of that
distance you must first travel that fraction of that distance of the
fraction of the  distance you must first travel the fraction of before ...

Calculus that, cretin.

>      The author finds it incredible that this paradox has been taken
> seriously by intelligent men for over two millennia and has not been
> recognized as a form of trickery.

This writer does not find it incredible that idots believe it is resolvable
by math-lingo ignoring of premises.

>  The reality is that THE PASSAGE OF
> TIME DOES NOT SLOW AS THE ARROW APPROACHES THE TARGET AND THE ARROW REACHES
> THE TARGET WHEN IT SHOULD.

Idiot.  The set of Zeno's paradoxes addresses the question: does process
exist. Your 'reality', whether or not it really (lol) is reality, asserts
the null hypothesis as the proof the null hypothesis is not null.

eleaticus  (get it?)
ee-lee-AT-i-cus
eleaticus - 28 Apr 2006 00:29 GMT
ooops. got a 'little' lost in part of that.

Try what may have been the original form of the paradox, moron. Then explain
how calculus resolves it:

Before you can travel (some fraction of the distance you) must first travel
(that fraction of that fraction of distance), but before you travel (that
fraction of that
fraction of that fraction of the distance) you must first travel (that
fraction of  ...

Calculus that, cretin.

PS. It will be fun seeing SR-cretins defending the Tots' cretinism.

eleaticus
ee-lee-AT-i-cus

> > "The Paradox of Zeno"
>
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> eleaticus  (get it?)
> ee-lee-AT-i-cus
Hexenmeister - 28 Apr 2006 10:55 GMT
| > "The Paradox of Zeno"
|
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|
| The 'author' is an idiot.

Seconded.

| >      The Paradox of Zeno is 2000 years old and its apparent ability to
| prove
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|
| Calculus that, cretin.

Yes indeed. Xeno set a puzzle to encourage thought in his students.
I rather liked Tom Clancy's reference to one of his own story characters:
"He was and would continue to be a teacher, and as with most skilled
teachers,
he would occasionally tell lies as harsh exemplars of a deeper truth."
-- Tom Clancy, "Executive Orders"

The pity of it is cretins like the forever nymshifting word-reversing
"Xaoh Nietsnie" are unaware of Xeno's intent and consider it foolishness
in the belief that they are smarter than the average bear, Boo Boo.
I suppose they are, barely, but still way below gorilla or chimpanzee.
Androcles.

| >      The author finds it incredible that this paradox has been taken
| > seriously by intelligent men for over two millennia and has not been
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| eleaticus  (get it?)
| ee-lee-AT-i-cus
 
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