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The Liar Paradox - a modern example

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Sorcerer - 26 Nov 2006 11:29 GMT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox

"Tom Roberts" <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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| Mike wrote:
| > "Ficticous" has no place in physics.

| Except that it _IS_ used. Because the various "fictitious forces" were
| invented to maintain the FICTION that Newton's laws are valid in various
| accelerated coordinates.

|  And, as I point out in another post in this thread, the world is NOT
| Newtonian....

Redux:  Fictitious Newtonian forces are not Newtonian.

There is no liar paradox without a liar.

Der alte Hexenmeister und Engineer
Androcles Dumbledore B.A., M.Sc., Ph.D.,
Headmaster, hogwarts.physics school for zauberlehrlings.
"One muggle's magic is another sorcerer's engineering"

 http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
harry - 30 Nov 2006 10:46 GMT
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox
>
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>
> There is no liar paradox without a liar.

Who used the phrase "Fictitious Newtonian forces"?

> Der alte Hexenmeister und Engineer
> Androcles Dumbledore B.A., M.Sc., Ph.D.,
> Headmaster, hogwarts.physics school for zauberlehrlings.
> "One muggle's magic is another sorcerer's engineering"
>
>  http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
Sorcerer - 30 Nov 2006 13:36 GMT
| >  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox
| >
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|
| Who used the phrase "Fictitious Newtonian forces"?

Don't play word salad with me, knuckle-dragging Neanderthal punk.
"Fictitious" has no place in physics no matter what the lying shithead
Roberts says.

"SR is strictly valid only in a flat Lorentzian manifold with the
topology of R^4. This of course is a very poor model of the world we
inhabit.
But physics is not math, and we often use approximations. SR is
approximately valid" -- Roberts.

Newtonian Mechanics is exactly valid, SR (and GR)  is a piss poor
and useless approximation loaded with word salad and f.ck-all to do
with physics.



| > Der alte Hexenmeister und Engineer
| > Androcles Dumbledore B.A., M.Sc., Ph.D.,
| > Headmaster, hogwarts.physics school for zauberlehrlings.
| > "One muggle's magic is another sorcerer's engineering"
| >
| >  http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
 
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