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big bang v. creation

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wine - 24 Feb 2007 15:01 GMT
what is the difference between big bang
and creation theory
Dave - 24 Feb 2007 15:09 GMT
> what is the difference between big bang
> and creation theory

one is based on religion the other on science.
wine - 24 Feb 2007 16:54 GMT
> > and creation theory
>
> one is based on religion the other on science.

their particular fundation is not tha question

what is tha difference between them it self, now
that you have them
Dave - 24 Feb 2007 17:14 GMT
>> the difference between big bang
>> > and creation theory
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> what is tha difference between them it self, now
> that you have them

the difference is that you believe one or the other.  since no one can
believe both there is no logical method to make a comparison since it would
always be biased by your own beliefs.
Shubee - 24 Feb 2007 16:18 GMT
> what is the difference between big bang
> and creation theory

As Steven Hawking has written, the big bang smacks of divine
intervention.

Shubee
G. L. Bradford - 26 Feb 2007 13:45 GMT
>> what is the difference between big bang
>> and creation theory
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Shubee

 Poor choice of words then. Creators are always in their creations.
Creations are always in their creators. That then smacks of duality and
eternity -- smacking of constancy, not intervention. There is no difference
between the Big Bang surface and horizon (large) and the Planck surface and
horizon (small). The unit constants of both are the same. Both are the same
fundamental, fundamentally constant.

 There is no way that we today should be witnessing any very distant
light-time, yet we do [constantly]. All of the light from all that distant
background should have been absorbed by now in a Universe that on, or in,
its surface, should be universally hotter than the fire pit of Hell.

 Oops! It [is] precisely that. It [is] universally hotter than the fire pit
of Hell [on or in its surface], its Planck surface! "Deja-vu all over
again," as the great Yogi Berra might say.

GLB
George Hammond - 24 Feb 2007 16:47 GMT
>what is the difference between big bang
>and creation theory

[Hammond]
Simple:

"CREATION" Refers to the "creation of time itself" (past
present and future) with the advent of the human mind
(approx 100,000 years ago) which is the "creation of
reality", since without a (human) observer, there is no such
thing as reality, time, or the universe.

The "Big Bang" refers to the beginning of the Universe
within the existence of time itself and happened 14 billion
years ago "within time itself".

Hence we see that even though the Big Bang happened 14
billion years ago "within time", we see that "time itself"
is only 100,000 years old, hence the Creation which happened
100k years ago is "OLDER" than the Big Bang wehich happened
14 billion years ago.... or as it is sometimes expressed...
"God is older than the Big Bang".

By the way, you have to be "smart" to understand this... the
average stalkerazzi heckling Usenet amateur punk CANNOT
understand this, which is WHY they can't understand what
"God" is.  You have to have an IQ over 130 to understand
what "God" is.

========================================
    SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
  mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
     GOD=G_uv   (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================

THEREFORE, we see that although
wine - 24 Feb 2007 17:08 GMT
On Feb 24, 5:47 pm, George Hammond             <Nowhe...@notspam.org>
wrote:
> On 24 Feb 2007 07:01:20 -0800, "wine"
>
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> present and future) with the advent of the human mind
> (approx 100,000 years ago) which is the "creation of

crap,  approx ususlly means we dont know sh.t

humans are not important, and they been arround much longe3r than that

> reality", since without a (human) observer, there is no such
> thing as reality, time, or the universe.

crap even more

are humans tha center of universe ?

you fooool

> The "Big Bang" refers to the beginning of the Universe
> within the existence of time itself and happened 14 billion
> years ago "within time itself".

crap, 20 bil, 30 bill, any billions

> Hence we see that even though the Big Bang happened 14
> billion years ago "within time", we see that "time itself"
> is only 100,000 years old, hence the Creation which happened
> 100k years ago is "OLDER" than the Big Bang wehich happened
> 14 billion years ago.... or as it is sometimes expressed...

crap, you dont even know your bible,
according ta it tha world is only 6000 years old

> "God is older than the Big Bang"

you fool, god is ethernal, hoe could it been
just older?

> By the way, you have to be "smart" to understand this... the
> average stalkerazzi heckling Usenet amateur punk CANNOT
> understand this, which is WHY they can't understand what
> "God" is.  You have to have an IQ over 130 to understand
> what "God" is.

you mean 130 not  even to not understand

according to you god has a brain

what is tha IQ of god?

> ========================================
>      SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> THEREFORE, we see that although
Dracnor - 24 Feb 2007 17:19 GMT
> what is the difference between big bang
> and creation theory

One is tax funded, the other is tax exempt.
Dave - 24 Feb 2007 17:40 GMT
>> what is the difference between big bang
>> and creation theory
>
> One is tax funded, the other is tax exempt.

now that is a good way to look at it!
Zarkovic - 25 Feb 2007 01:32 GMT
one is a theory
the other isn't
hence, no comparison between the "theories", since you need more than 1
theory to have a comparison
Baggage Check - 25 Feb 2007 13:10 GMT
Zarkovic wrote:
> one is a theory
> the other isn't
> hence, no comparison between the "theories", since you need more than 1
> theory to have a comparison

One is where you load your baggage,
the other is where you unload your baggage.

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PD - 26 Feb 2007 19:12 GMT
> what is the difference between big bang
> and creation theory

One is a theory (has predictive power) and the other one isn't.
One of them is connected with other scientifically tested models, such
as those in particle physics, and the other one isn't.
One of them will eventually be practically useful for the design of
tools, and the other will never be.

PD
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