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YoungYou@gmail.com - 29 Jun 2005 10:49 GMT
Hi Everyone,

In a paper from 1904 in German, there were some units I could not
figure out.
1) 12 Be- (- was on top of the e)
2) 1/n NaOH
I geuss Be- is unit of degree and 1/n measns 1 or 0.1 normal
concentration.

Does anyone have an idea on these?

Appreciate your reply in advance!

Porphyrin
maison.mousse - 30 Jun 2005 12:21 GMT
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>Hi Everyone,
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>Porphyrin

B? is likely a reference to the Baum? hydrometer scale.
There are two kinds of use,  heavy B? and  light B? .
On the light scale 0? B? is equal to the gravity  of a 10%
solution of NaCL.
I would asume also that 1/n NaOH  would be 0.1N

JOL
Albert Ruggi - 04 Jul 2005 10:42 GMT
> Hi Everyone,
>
> In a paper from 1904 in German, there were some units I could not
> figure out.
> 1) 12 Be- (- was on top of the e)

"B?" it's the symbol of "Baum? degrees". You can found others info (and also
formulas for the conversion between B? and density here:
http://antoine.frostburg.edu/chem/senese/101/measurement/faq/baume-scale.shtml

In Europe we use commercially  B? degrees yet, i.e. if you buy some NH4OH by
a chemist, on the bottle you can read "10 B?" and not the concentration or
the specific gravity!

> 2) 1/n NaOH
> 1/n measns 1 or 0.1 normal concentration.

Yes, 1/n it's normal (or molar...for NaOH it's the same if we are speaking
about acid properties) concentration write with a fraction and not wit a
decimal number. You have simply to transform fraction in decimal number
(i.e. 1/2 NaOH = NaOH 0.5N)

Bye!
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dave - 04 Jul 2005 10:44 GMT
briefly around that time some people tried to use a standardised
version of Degrees Brix (its a measure of density based on sugar
solutions usualy used in beer and wine making.) with the idea that this
would be more accurate some how, but I thought the germans were smarter
than to fall into that trap, the context of use might help you decifer
more than my shot in the dark though.
 
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