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Natural Science Forum / Chemistry / Organic Synthesis / September 2003



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acids for catalytic hydrogenation

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Yonek Bryan Hleba - 16 Sep 2003 17:25 GMT
Hello everyone,

                                I'm want to conduct a catalytic
hydrogenation under acidic conditions.  The reference uses traces (0.5 mL
per 20 mL solvent hexanes) perchloric acid (HClO4), which for safety reasons
and the lack of a washdown fumehood, I cannot and don't want to use.  I
quick scan through Catalytic Hydrogenation by P. Rylander only mentions acid
conditions using typical acids (sulfuric and hydrochloric)  and acetic acid
as solvent.

   I was thinking of using a trace amounts of trifluoroacetic acid in place
of perchloric.  Thoughts?  Suggestions for another type of acid?

   Thanks for any input.

Yonek

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Uncle Al - 17 Sep 2003 15:24 GMT
> Hello everyone,

>                                  I'm want to conduct a catalytic
> hydrogenation under acidic conditions.  The reference uses traces (0.5 mL
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> conditions using typical acids (sulfuric and hydrochloric)  and acetic acid
> as solvent.

>     I was thinking of using a trace amounts of trifluoroacetic acid in place
> of perchloric.  Thoughts?  Suggestions for another type of acid?

TFA or triflic acid ought to do it.  What is your bomb made of?  316
SS is not happy with acids and it gets eaten by halide.  Do you use a
glass or teflon liner?

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Steve Turner - 17 Sep 2003 15:28 GMT
>                                 I'm want to conduct a catalytic
>hydrogenation under acidic conditions.  The reference uses traces (0.5 mL
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>    I was thinking of using a trace amounts of trifluoroacetic acid in place
>of perchloric.  Thoughts?  Suggestions for another type of acid?

What you suggest makes good sense.  The choice of acid might depend on
the product (e.g., salt form) that you'd like to isolate.  Another
common combination is HCl in methanol or ethanol.  This can be made by
adding an appropriate volume of conc. aq. HCl to the alcohol, or, if
anhydrous solvent is needed, the calculated amount of acetyl chloride
to the alcohol.

Very polar / acidic conditions increase catalyst activity and
hydrogenation rate.

Steve Turner

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Muhammar - 17 Sep 2003 15:30 GMT
TFA is perfectly fine for the purpose. (HClO4: looks like this is a
pretty old procedure, perchloric acid is not used much now.)

Also, AcOH (neat) is not too bad. Neat acetic acid is somewhat
unpleasant to evaporate, but AcOH is an excellent solvent for
hydrogenations.

> Hello everyone,

>                                  I'm want to conduct a catalytic
> hydrogenation under acidic conditions.  The reference uses traces (0.5 mL
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> conditions using typical acids (sulfuric and hydrochloric)  and acetic acid
> as solvent.

>     I was thinking of using a trace amounts of trifluoroacetic acid in place
> of perchloric.  Thoughts?  Suggestions for another type of acid?

>     Thanks for any input.

> Yonek

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