Natural Science Forum / Physics / Relativity / November 2005

Albert Einstein, "Relativity", Chapter 7: "There is hardly a simpler
law in physics than that according to which light is propagated in
empty space. Every child at school knows, or believes he knows, that
this propagation takes place in straight lines with a velocity c=300000

Non-expanding universe
Some arguments are given below.
Of course, the anti-Bigbangers are crackpots!  ;-)
Marcel Luttgens

In refutation of Tim's argument below I quote Igor Novikov. Of course
one must read Novikov to get all the details properly.
In reference to Tim's "paradoxes" below:
"Does this paradox demonstrate that time travel [to the past] is

Dirk Van de moortel wrote:

Dirk Van de moortel wrote:

And he was the father of many aspects of modern physics
       In 1905 he wrote that c could not be attained by massive objects,
100 years and Billions of dollars later, that is still true.
      He raised the age old principle of relativity to a broad, useful  discipline.

Both the thermodynamics cult and the relativity cult have contributed
considerably to the destruction of human rationality. The former made
people repeat endlessly that everything in this world happens because
the entropy increases (see Von Neumann's revelation about entropy in

"The Impossibility of Measuring the Velocity of Light"
    The idea that the velocity of light is the same no matter in
what reference frame it is measured is fundamental to the modern sceince of
physics. The premise started with the confusion resulting from failure of

On Nov 27, 2005, at 1:50 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
“I can say I am a scientist. I find excitement in discovery. The
excitement is not in the fact that you’ve created something, but that
you’ve found something beautiful that’s always been there … I want to

it seems that tha selfestablished relativist experts in this group
are still thinking that the physics is about reading book
i got news for you, reading books was about maybe one
hundered years ago

Dear Relativity geniuses such as Bilge and Old Man,
What do you think of the following sci-am discussion?
(The following article is reproduced for debunking & educational
purposes only)

Has this appeared anyplace else;
[QUOTE]
Massive objects also create a strong gravitational force. That is described by by gravitational
mass. Gravitational Mass measures how much gravity an object creates. Inertial Mass measures how an

On Nov 27, 2005, at 7:24 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
Another Go at this:
Round 2. :-)
OK, let's look at this once more. The problem here is how to properly

 It's clear for "LIGO", "LISA" and so on. But, what does "VIRGO" stand
for?
 Thank you!
 Ian Shea

I have promised a reward of 1000 US dollars to anyone who will find a
serious mistake in falling space theory. Let's make it better. Now I offer
the same amount of money to anyone who can prove that space time or time
dilation is real.